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Calls for national overhaul to career advice to tackle uni-centric focus for school students

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At 23, Chelsea Taylor had three unfinished degrees, $30,000 in student debt, and no idea what she wanted to do with her life.

"I was feeling really, really lost at that stage and my brother recently had seen an ad on TV. Metro [Trains Melbourne] was looking to hire more women," Ms Taylor said.

"He was like, 'You could do that', and I was like, 'Sure okay, what have I got to lose?'"

Ms Taylor has been a train driver for five years now and loves it.

She said she wished she had discovered it sooner.

"I wish my school and the adults in my life didn't present non-university careers as lesser or fall-back options, so I wouldn't have felt so pressured to keep restarting degrees," Ms Taylor said.

"I was getting grades good enough to get into university, [so] that's why I was going to go.

"That was my only option really, there was nothing else … given to me."

Ms Taylor said it took her a long time to shake the notion that if she did not attend university she would be "wasting an opportunity".

Reach for the ATARs

Research by the National Centre for Student Equity in Higher Education (NCSEHE) in 2022 showed study pathways information for high school students was "significantly skewed towards university study, and students are uninformed about alternative pathways into post-secondary education".

Curtin University Associate Professor Jane Coffey, who helped lead the study, said the research from surveys showed the extent of career advice for students was "pretty much subject selection".

"And your subject selection was based on your grades, rather than your interests," she said.

"We had a story in the report about a young student who was actually quite interested in doing maths, was looking at the sciences. 

"But the teachers looked at the scores and said ... 'You're not up for it' and [they] were streamed into VET courses that that particular student wasn't interested in doing."

Another student had reported the opposite problem – they had great grades in physics and chemistry, but no interest in studying science.

"They were pushed into the ATAR subjects and six months through year 11 just went, 'you know what, I can't do this' and it was quite stressful for the student and they dropped out," Ms Coffey said.

"Which to me is just devastating."

She said career advice also varied across schools depending on their socio-economic status (SES), with the report finding students from low SES backgrounds more likely to receive information on non-professional pathways.

"If they go to a private or elite school or a school that's well resourced, then they're generally getting some not-bad advice from careers advisers who have the time and have the knowledge to provide advice on different pathways," she said.

"However, even with those schools we find that it's pretty much concentrated on ATAR [Australian Tertiary Admission Rank], and if you're not ATAR they're pushing you to VET pathways."

But she said in low socio-economic or rural areas, a careers advisory position was generally left to a "really dedicated teacher who's either put their hand up or been volunteered".

"So what we've found in this study is they're generally struggling because they're trying to fit it in with their day job because they don't have the knowledge, they don't have the resources and it's actually a really complex minefield and each state is different as to the different pathways you have to tertiary education to university or to TAFE or some other mode of study," she said.

Canberra's Marist College careers adviser Leigh Southwell said while advisers give students information about alternative pathways when suitable, it was difficult to provide personal advice to hundreds of students, and they sometimes fell behind given "the sheer of information about pathways, options and courses".

"It's almost like a firehose of information we have to absorb and then disseminate out," she said.

"It's pretty much an impossible task."

She said there was often only one adviser per school – and that it was sometimes a teacher who had to juggle the role on top of their full-time workload.

"The demands of that one person to know the individual needs and pathways of 500 or 1000 students is really, really difficult," she said.

Students suffer, employers suffer

Industries have grown increasingly concerned about outdated career advice that does not reflect evolving workforce needs.

The Tech Council of Australia said one in two Australian students had never been taught about digital careers.

But head of corporate communications at Australian graphic design platform, Canva, Lachlan Andrews said businesses were also responsible for encouraging more diverse pathways into work.

Canva removed degree requirements from most roles a few years ago.

"We did that intentionally, knowing that having diversity of experiences, perspectives and backgrounds actually just adds so much value," Mr Andrews said.

Mr Andrews left school in year 10. Now at 22, he is head of his department.

Mr Andrews said he was invited at one point to study public communications at university, but he left after a semester.

"The type of stuff they were teaching was so different to the actual job," he said.

"Looking back, absolutely no regrets."

However, Professor Andrew Norton, an expert in higher education systems at Australian National University, said pursuing university and TAFE could be more appealing in the long term.

"On average, people who have a degree earn more than [people] with a vocational or year 12 only," Mr Norton said.

"For young men … their vocational options tend to have better pay than the vocational options of women."

Ms Coffey said students reported wanting more information on different pathways to tertiary education, alternatives to ATAR, and the future of work.

"If you're 16, 17 years old it's very hard to come up with an answer about what you want to do with the rest of your life," she said.

"We know with the future of work, by 2030, a lot of careers that these young people will be going into haven't even been created yet. They haven't been invented.

"Because things are changing so considerably with artificial intelligence and technology. So how do they plan for a vocation that hasn't even been invented yet?"

Bridging the work and school divide

Camberwell Girls Grammar School has been rethinking its approach to career advice.

The private school in Melbourne's east has designed an upskill program to give students practical work skills and insights into a range of industries, with a focus on technology.

But principal Debbie Dunwoody believes the national curriculum has not made change easy.

"We work within a fairly conservative framework that's very reliant on ATAR scores," she said.

"But we don't believe that that's enough for young people."

The school has also supported students to pursue work and "side-hustles", as studies have shown teenagers who combine full-time study with part-time work show improved outcomes in the adult job market.

The federal government's recent employment white paper acknowledges the need for better career advice for school leavers.

But the Department of Education said it was up to state and territory authorities to make decisions around career advice in schools, including whether careers advisers should be mandatory in high schools.

Ms Coffey said a national approach to information was essential to "demystify" and "standardise" the process of accessing tertiary education.

"One of the things we're recommending is a national standard, because this is pretty hard for teachers to navigate the way it's changing all the time and the different pathways a student can access tertiary education," she said.

"It's not all about ATAR."

She also wants to see career advice "embedded" into school curriculums that reflect the future of work.

"We're still stuck in a bit of a time-warp about the way jobs did look when maybe my parents went through, but it looks very, very different now.

"And I think our education system needs to now catch up."

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(1):The name Australian law gives to the traditional ownership of land and waters.

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$5,000 Google Jamboard dies in 2024—cloud-based apps will stop working, too

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Even more Google products are getting the ax this week. Next up is Google Jamboard, a $5,000 digital whiteboard (and its $600-a-year fee) and software ecosystem marketed to schools and corporations. Google has a new post detailing the "Next phase of digital whiteboarding for Google Workspace," and the future for Jamboard is that there is no future. In "late 2024," the whole project will shut down, and we don't just mean the hardware will stop being for sale; the cloud-based apps will stop working, too.

Most people probably haven't ever heard of Jamboard, but this was a giant 55-inch, 4K touchscreen on a rolling stand that launched in 2016. Like most Google touchscreens, this ran Android with a locked-down custom interface on top instead of the usual phone interface. The digital whiteboard could be drawn on using the included stylus or your fingers, and it even came with a big plastic "eraser" that would remove items. The SoC was an Nvidia Jetson TX1 (a quad-core Cortex-A57 CPU attached to a beefy Maxwell GPU), and it had a built-in camera, microphone, and speakers for video calls. There was HDMI input and Google cast support, and it came in whimsical colors like red, gray, and blue (it feels like Google was going for an iMac rainbow and quit halfway).

Google's secret sauce here was that Jamboard was heavily integrated with Google Workspace, so it could pull in items from Google Docs, Sheets, and Slides, and all your whiteboard work was saved in a filetype called "Jams" in the usual Google storage. Like the other Workspace apps, this all worked live over the Internet. People not in front of the touchscreen could launch the "Jamboard app" instead, letting them get in on the whiteboard action remotely, complete with live handwriting.

On the death of its latest product, Google says, "We're grateful to the consumers, educators, students, and businesses who have used Jamboard since its launch in 2016. While Jamboard users make up a small portion of our Workspace customer base, we understand that this change will impact some of you, and we’re committed to helping you transition..." Yes, that's right, "transition" is usually not something you have to consider when a company kills a hardware product, but the whole cloud system is going down, too, so all of your existing $5,000 whiteboards will soon be useless, and you won't be able to open the cloud data on other devices.

"Over the coming months, we’ll provide Jamboard app users and admins clear paths to retain their Jamboard data or migrate it," Google tells users in its blog post. The migration options are all third-party competitor whiteboard apps—Figma's FigJam, Lucid Software's Lucidspark, and Miro. Google says you can move your data in "just a few clicks, well before the Jamboard app winds down in late 2024." Going forward, Google says it has "decided to leverage our partner ecosystem for whiteboarding in Workspace," meaning exiting the whiteboard market, showing users the door, and telling them to take their data with them.

You'll still need a new touchscreen, which means another pricey hardware purchase for existing Jamboard customers. Google seems to feel particularly bad for the schools that bought into this, saying, "We will also work directly with educational institutions to compensate them for their Jamboard devices."

Jamboard was a pricey item, but $5,000 was just the tip of the iceberg. There was a $600 "annual management and support fee," plus subscriptions to Google Workspace for every user, plus an optional $1,350 for the rolling stand. A one-year total with a single Workspace user is around $7,000. People often ask about a recurring revenue stream when predicting what products will live and die, but even a $600-per-year fee attached to every sale wasn't enough to keep Jamboard running.

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Google - where good ideas go to be murdered mercilessly by uninspired and not future focussed arsehats
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Google: “why don’t people buy our enterprise offerings?”

Also Google: “that $5k hardware for which you’ve been paying a hefty annual subscription turns into a pumpkin next year”
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The Australian Human Rights Commission has indicated that it was not inclined to grant Melbourne-based Lesbian Action Group an exemption to discriminate on the grounds of sexual orientation and gender ...

The post AHRC Says ‘Not Persuaded’ To Allow Lesbian Born Female Event To Legally Discriminate appeared first on Star Observer.

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